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		<title>A chat with Seann William Scott, Jay Baruchel and director Michael Dowse of &#8220;Goon&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aptly enough for a sports comedy, our interviewees today are a ragtag collection of lovable underdogs. Unavoidably geeky, Jay Baruchel&#8217;s starring roles in &#8220;She&#8217;s Out of My League,&#8221; &#8220;The Sorcerer&#8217;s Apprentice,&#8221; and &#8220;How to Train Your Dragon&#8221; have left him short of the A-list; he&#8217;s still perhaps best known as the lead alum of Judd [...]]]></description>
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<p>Aptly enough for a sports comedy, our interviewees today are a ragtag collection of lovable underdogs. Unavoidably geeky, Jay Baruchel&#8217;s starring roles in &#8220;<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/mguide/reviews_2010/shes_out_of_my_league.htm" target="_blank">She&#8217;s Out of My League</a>,&#8221; &#8220;<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/mguide/reviews_2010/the_sorcerers_apprentice.htm" target="_blank">The Sorcerer&#8217;s Apprentice</a>,&#8221; and &#8220;How to Train Your Dragon&#8221; have left him short of the A-list; he&#8217;s still perhaps best known as the lead alum of Judd Apatow&#8217;s beloved, quickly cancelled 2001 sitcom, &#8220;<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television_reviews/2001/undeclared_1.htm" target="_blank">Undeclared</a>.&#8221; Leading man Seann William Scott has worked in numerous films in a pretty wide variety of genres, yet to almost everyone he&#8217;s still obnoxious Steve Stifler of the &#8220;American Pie&#8221; series; he&#8217;ll be reprising the character for a fourth go-round in the upcoming &#8220;American Reunion.&#8221; Director Michael Dowse has some indie successes on his CV, but his last attempt to break into the mainstream, &#8220;<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/mguide/reviews_2011/take_me_home_tonight.htm" target="_blank">Take Me Home Tonight</a>,&#8221; was an unmitigated commercial disaster and, for the most part, a critical flop. (We, however, liked it a lot; so much for the Bullz-Eye bump.)</p>
<p>Already available on VOD, &#8220;<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/mguide/reviews_2012/goon.htm" target="_blank">Goon</a>&#8221; is one underdog movie we&#8217;re definitely rooting for. Loosely inspired by minor league hockey star Doug Smith&#8217;s memoir and co-written by Canadian hockey fan Baruchel and veteran Apatow-scribe Evan Goldberg, the film focuses on Doug Glatt (Scott), a goodhearted bouncer of no great intellect who finds himself promoted to full-time hockey thug.</p>
<p>Featuring an outstanding supporting cast comprised of Baruchel, Liev Schreiber, Eugene Levy, Kim Coates (&#8220;<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television/fan_hubs/sons_of_anarchy/" target="_blank">Sons of Anarchy</a>&#8220;) and Alison Pill as the dysfunctional love of Doug Glatt&#8217;s life, &#8220;Goon&#8221; doesn&#8217;t gloss over the ugliness of sports violence even as it humorously celebrates it. For that, it took some punches from the traditionally violence-averse British press on its earlier UK release. The Yankee press, however, has been kinder, and there may be some hope of a wide release if enough of you hit the initial U.S. screenings starting this Friday.</p>
<p>Low-key Minnesota native Seann William Scott, intense Montrealite Jay Baruchel, and matter-of-fact Canadian filmmaker Michael Dowse were still high on the afterglow of a successful industry screening the night before when a bunch of us journos met with the trio at the Beverly Hilton. Some amusing and informative highlights are below.</p>
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<p><strong>Jay Baruchel on creating Doug Glatt, the not-so-bright but incredibly decent hero of &#8220;Goon.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>My dad used to have this expression, which was &#8220;Don&#8217;t complicate a ham sandwich.&#8221; In my experience, a lot of the hardest guys I know are also the kindest and most mild-mannered and gentlest. This in no way means that [their kindness] should be mistaken for weakness. He&#8217;s a man who knows what he wants, or finds out what he wants and where he&#8217;s supposed to be. He&#8217;s fulfilled.</p>
<p><strong>Seann William Scott on playing Doug Glatt.</strong></p>
<p>He&#8217;s written to be such a lovable guy and so good to his core. It was written with that specificity and I consider myself to be a good guy, so it&#8217;s not hard for me to play that&#8230; I was always aware of wanting to make sure there were different colors. Anything that I could bring, but it was already written with that kind of code of honor that he has. He&#8217;s self aware of the kind of guy he is and where he is in the world, but it is kind of black and white.</p>
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<p><strong>Jay Baruchel on the casting of Seann William Scott.</strong></p>
<p>There&#8217;s no movie without him and there&#8217;s virtually no alternative&#8230; We had no #2. With anything, it&#8217;s in your best interest to cover your ass and have your sort of top list of who you&#8217;d want. Literally, for Doug it was [a list of] one. It was that or maybe find an unknown, because there&#8217;s not a lot of boys in movies who look like they could kick the shit out of somebody that you&#8217;d find sympathetic, who would embody everything the guy has to embody. As slow as he is, he&#8217;s not simple in the least. I don&#8217;t know who can take credit for [first] mentioning Seann but it was a light bulb moment. When we all met him, within five seconds of meeting him we were like, &#8220;This is clearly our fuckin&#8217; guy.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Michael Dowse on why Doug Glatt &#8212; unlike real-life player and <em>Goon </em>author Doug Smith &#8212; is Jewish.</strong></p>
<p>That was something that Jay and Evan [Goldberg] brought in there. It came out of Jay&#8217;s personal history. His dad is Jewish and played hockey. He had to negotiate that. It&#8217;s not a pretty picture, being a Jewish hockey player in Quebec.</p>
<p><strong>Seann William Scott on how playing Doug Glatt fits into his (so far) Steve Stifler-dominated filmography.</strong></p>
<p>["Goon"] would have been a movie that I would have loved to have done when I started off my career&#8230; I&#8217;ve been typecast for sure, but I still appreciate every job I get and you just have to make the best of it. [With "Goon"] I didn&#8217;t have to make the best of it. This was already great and I got this opportunity to work with filmmakers who believed in me as an actor&#8230;Then I got to go back and do &#8220;American Pie 4&#8243; and I had an absolute awesome time. Would I love to go play a character like <a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/movies/interviews/2011/hanna.htm" target="_blank">Eric Bana</a> in &#8220;Chopper&#8221; or [<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/movies/interviews/2011/warrior.htm" target="_blank">Tom Hardy</a> in] &#8220;Bronson&#8221;? That would be great, but I&#8217;m pretty psyched that I was in this.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.bullz-eye.com/2012/03/26/a-chat-with-seann-william-scott-jay-baruchel-and-director-michael-dowse-of-goon/goon_3/" rel="attachment wp-att-11227"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-11227" title="goon_3" src="http://blog.bullz-eye.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/goon_1.jpg" alt="" width="477" height="250" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Jay Baruchel on the &#8220;Goon&#8221; approach to depicting hockey, fights and hockey fights.</strong></p>
<p>Everyone got a bit dinged up. Everyone tagged each other at some point. Not on purpose but I don&#8217;t even know how many fights we have in our movie. When you have as much fighting as we had with as many big boys together on skates, somebody&#8217;s bound to tag somebody.</p>
<p>&#8230; I don&#8217;t want anybody to smell bullshit because I think that hockey has, for the most part, been very poorly photographed in movies. I think it&#8217;s the lack of space and the speed and the size. For whatever combination of reasons, people have never shot hockey the way it should be shot in a movie, for the most part. We needed to nail that.</p>
<p>We [also] needed the audience to feel every punch. There are different types of fights in the movie. They run the gamut. Some are played more for fun; some are meant to be exhilarating. Some are meant to be straight unpleasant &#8212; as it is. We wanted people, when they sit down to watch our flick, that they&#8217;ll either experience on their inside kind of what it feels like to be out there or, at the very least, what it feels like to be in the stands. It&#8217;s a love letter to a very specific, strange job in professional sports.</p>
<p><strong>Seann William Scott on learning to skate and fight like Doug Glatt, who initially doesn&#8217;t know how to skate at all but definitely knows how to fight.</strong></p>
<p>I knew [how to skate] probably better than most non-skaters. I hadn&#8217;t put skates on since I was a little kid. I was able to move around a little bit. I did the best that I could before the shoot to practice. What you see in the movie &#8212; those are my highlights. That&#8217;s my A-game. The fights were pretty intense [and were harder to accomplish than the skating] but it was worth it. Watching the movie, the fights looked awesome&#8230; Surprisingly, there weren&#8217;t major injuries. There should have been.</p>
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<p><strong>Michael Dowse on improvising with Jay Baruchel.</strong></p>
<p>Jay is a filthy improvisor. I knew he was talented but until you actually work with him on the day [you can't tell]. I mean, he <em>disgusted</em> me with some of the stuff that came out of his mouth. That&#8217;s saying a lot. I&#8217;ve heard a lot of bad shit. I would turn to [the continuity person] and say, &#8220;What did he just say? &#8216;Colostomy bag&#8217;?&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Jay Baruchel on hockey movies.</strong></p>
<p>The only hockey films that have any influence on me would be &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slap_Shot_%28film%29" target="_blank">Slap Shot</a>&#8221; and then it&#8217;s pretty barren after that. I&#8217;d also put what I think is at least one of the best sports documentaries of all time, a very under seen movie called &#8220;Les Chiefs,&#8221; following a minor league team outside of Montreal for one season in a fight league. That doc centers around this guy who was born to a family of doctors. His brother&#8217;s a filmmaker, and he has no interest in doing [medicine] and they all shit on him constantly for it. That, plus the book itself, <em>Goon</em>, and my dad. Just a bunch of different ingredients came into it.</p>
<p><strong>Michael Dowse, who plays hockey, on hockey movies.</strong></p>
<p>I just thought there was a need to make a really good hockey movie again. It had been a while and there&#8217;d been a lot of really bad hockey films. I don&#8217;t know why they make such bad hockey films. There&#8217;s always chimpanzees and tooth fairies and weird shit going on.</p>
<p><strong>Seann William Scott on his work out regimen for &#8220;Goon.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>You don&#8217;t see me with my shirt off in the movie. There&#8217;s a reason for that. To be absolutely honest, before the movie got its money, I&#8217;d been training my whole life as an athlete or just to stay in shape. I said, &#8220;I&#8217;m going to take some time off.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m the kind of guy who, if I don&#8217;t work out, I will get a little bigger and look like a guy who used to play sports. Then, when it looked like we were going to do the movie, it was a combination of already changing how I used to train and to gain weight, which was easier. I thought the only way it would look legit for me to take on these guys was to look bigger&#8230; It wouldn&#8217;t make sense for me to be a gym rat.</p>
<p>The first couple of times I watched the movie, [I'd say] &#8220;Man, I&#8217;m pretty big there.&#8221; But it works so well for the character and makes him more lovable. Now, when I watch the movie, I don&#8217;t notice how many Twinkies I ate that day.</p>
<p><strong>Michael Dowse on re-teaming &#8220;American Pie&#8221; costars Seann William Scott and Eugene Levy.</strong></p>
<p>One of my bucket list things is to work with every single member of <a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television_reviews/1978/sctv_best_of_the_early_years.htm" target="_blank">SCTV</a> and see if I can get them in a film somehow. So, to work with Eugene was a dream come true. We wanted to do something different, and I think he responded to that idea. Because of the history of Seann and Eugene in a movie together, we definitely needed Eugene to play it seriously. I think he&#8217;s actually shown some really great dramatic chops in this film&#8230; He kind of surprises people because they expect his eyebrows and all that jazz. What they get is just a really concerned father.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.bullz-eye.com/2012/03/26/a-chat-with-seann-william-scott-jay-baruchel-and-director-michael-dowse-of-goon/goon_5/" rel="attachment wp-att-11229"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-11229" title="goon_5" src="http://blog.bullz-eye.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/goon_3.jpg" alt="" width="477" height="250" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Jay Baruchel on the sense of validation he&#8217;s getting from the good response to &#8220;Goon.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>We weren&#8217;t paid any heed for a very, very long time or taken seriously at all [in Hollywood]. To show it down here last night and to have this sort of jaded L.A. industry crowd &#8212; a lot of agents and execs and shit in there, they couldn&#8217;t care less about anything&#8230; So, when they see our movie and it connects the way that it did, I was like, &#8220;Yep, see. Toldja.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Sean William Scott on the inevitable question: What&#8217;s &#8220;American Reunion&#8221; going to be like?</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty excited about it, I have to say. We set out to try to just make a great comedy with these characters. Obviously, if I was going to play this role for a fourth time, I didn&#8217;t want it to be cheap. I&#8217;ve already been typecast &#8212; it doesn&#8217;t bother me, but if I&#8217;m going to do it again, I want it to be a standalone great comedy. It exceeded my expectations. The guys are in their 30s now; they&#8217;re dealing with a little bit more real stuff&#8230; I think coming back for the high school reunion, it almost feels like a direct sequel to the first one. I was surprised, when I saw it, that it has a lot of heart and a lot of romance for that kind of movie.</p>
<p><strong>Seann William Scott on whether Steve Stifler has married anyone by the start of &#8220;American Reunion.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>[Snorting] Oh, no! He&#8217;s lucky to get a date.</p>
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