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		<title>The Light from the TV Shows: TV Comfort Food for Thanksgiving</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 01:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Will Harris</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s Thanksgiving Eve &#8217;round Bullz-Eye HQ as I write this piece, which means that anyone here who&#8217;s still working wants to be doing it about as little as I do. In fact, the biggest reason I&#8217;ve waited this long into the evening to get moving on the piece is because I&#8217;ve spent way too much [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Thanksgiving Eve &#8217;round Bullz-Eye HQ as I write this piece, which means that anyone here who&#8217;s still working wants to be doing it about as little as I do. In fact, the biggest reason I&#8217;ve waited this long into the evening to get moving on the piece is because I&#8217;ve spent way too much of my day watching a marathon of a certain series on the USA Network&#8230;which brings me to the premise of this week&#8217;s column. Lord knows it&#8217;s become a small-screen staple for networks to offer programming which provides the one-two punch of 1) allowing the employees of these networks to do as little work as possible, and 2) inspiring all those TV viewers with Tryptophan surging through their veins to set down their remotes and bask in as many episodes of their favorite show as their holiday weekend downtime will allow.</p>
<p>Now you&#8217;re wondering what marathons you can catch this weekend, right? Well, there are a few good ones out there, to be sure:</p>
<p><img src="http://blog.bullz-eye.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/AdamRichman.jpg" alt="" title="AdamRichman" width="466" height="360" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21372" /></p>
<p><strong>Adam Richman&#8217;s Best Sandwich in America</strong> (Travel Channel, 9am-3pm Thursday)<br />
<strong>ALF</strong> (The Hub, 3pm Thursday &#8211; 3am Friday)<br />
<strong>The Andy Griffith Show</strong> (TV Land 4pm-9pm Thursday &#038; Friday)<br />
<strong>Behind the Music</strong> (VH1, 2pm-10pm Friday)<br />
<strong>Beverly Hills, 90210</strong> (SOAPNet, 8pm Friday &#8211; 1am Saturday)<br />
<strong>Breaking Amish</strong> (TLC, 11am-9pm Saturday)<br />
<strong>Castle</strong> (TNT, 10am-11pm Thursday)<br />
<strong>Chef Race: UK vs. US</strong> (BBC America, 8am-5pm Sunday)<br />
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<strong>CSI</strong> (Cloo, 6pm Friday &#8211; 3am Saturday)<br />
<strong>Dark Shadows (1991 version)</strong> (Chiller, 6am-5pm Thursday)<br />
<strong>The Dick Van Dyke Show</strong> (TV Land, 8am-12pm Friday)<br />
<strong>Duck Dynasty</strong> (A&#038;E, 3pm-midnight Friday)<br />
<strong>Extreme Couponing</strong> (TLC, 2pm-8pm Sunday)<br />
<strong>The First 48</strong> (A&#038;E, 3pm Friday &#8211; 4am Saturday)<br />
<strong>Forever Knight</strong> (Chiller, 6am-5pm Friday)<br />
<strong>Friends</strong> (TBS, 10am-6pm Thursday)</p>
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<p><strong>Fringe</strong> (Science, 10:30am Saturday &#8211; 2:30am Sunday)<br />
<strong>Gold Rush</strong> (Discovery, 1pm-10pm Friday)<br />
<strong>Happily Divorced</strong> (TV Land, 6pm-11pm Saturday)<br />
<strong>Hot in Cleveland</strong> (TV Land, 3pm-10:30pm Sunday)</p>
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<p><strong>House</strong> (Universal HD, 6am Thursday &#8211; 6am Friday)<br />
<strong>How It&#8217;s Made</strong> (Science, 6am-7:30pm Thursday &#038; Sunday)<br />
<strong>I Love Lucy</strong> (TV Land, 12pm-4pm Thursday)<br />
<strong>Law &#038; Order: Criminal Intent</strong> (Oxygen, 2am Friday &#8211; 2am Saturday)</p>
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<p><strong>Law &#038; Order: Special Victims United</strong> (USA, 12pm Saturday &#8211; 2am Sunday)<br />
<strong>Leave It to Beaver</strong> (Antenna TV, 12am Wednesday &#8211; 3am Friday)<br />
<strong>Mall Cops: Mall of America</strong> (Destination America, 4pm Thursday &#8211; 5am Friday)<br />
<strong>Moesha</strong> (BET, 8am-3pm Thursday)</p>
<p><img src="http://blog.bullz-eye.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/NCIS.jpg" alt="" title="NCIS" width="480" height="337" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21375" /></p>
<p><strong>NCIS</strong> (USA, 6am Wednesday &#8211; 6am Friday)<br />
<strong>Psych</strong> (Cloo, 6am Thursday &#8211; 6am Friday)<br />
<strong>Ripley&#8217;s Believe It or Not</strong> (Chiller, 2pm-7pm Sunday)<br />
<strong>Rocky &#038; Friends</strong> (VH-1 Classic, 11am-7pm Thursday)</p>
<p><img src="http://blog.bullz-eye.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Roseanne.jpg" alt="" title="Roseanne" width="433" height="360" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21376" /></p>
<p><strong>Roseanne</strong> (CMT, 2pm-6pm Thursday)<br />
<strong>Star Trek: The Next Generation</strong> (BBC America, 12pm Thursday &#8211; 6am Friday)<br />
<strong>Tattoo Nightmares</strong> (Spike, 9am-12pm Thursday)<br />
<strong>Undercover Boss</strong> (TLC, 1pm-7pm Saturday)</p>
<p>Yeah, I know, it&#8217;s just not the same without a proper &#8220;Law &#038; Order&#8221; marathon on TNT, but we make do with what we&#8217;ve got. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody!</p>
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		<title>The Light from the TV Shows: A Chat with Kathleen Robertson (&#8220;Boss&#8221;)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Will Harris</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although I get plenty of opportunities to do in-person interviews when I&#8217;m out on the west coast for the Television Critics Association press tours, I very rarely get the chance while I&#8217;m here at Virginia, so when I was offered the chance to meet Kathleen Robertson for coffee, one of the stars of a show [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Although I get plenty of opportunities to do in-person interviews when I&#8217;m out on the west coast for the Television Critics Association press tours, I very rarely get the chance while I&#8217;m here at Virginia, so when I was offered the chance to meet Kathleen Robertson for coffee, one of the stars of a show I already have a lot of love for (&#8220;Boss&#8221;), you can imagine that I didn&#8217;t have to think twice before answering, &#8220;Absolutely!&#8221; Indeed, I didn&#8217;t even blink an eye when it was casually mentioned that it might be nice if I managed to find a way to bring up Starz&#8217;s new app for Cox subscribers, Starz Play, because, what, like it&#8217;s such a bad thing to hype something that helps more people see some of my favorite series? (As you hopefully recall, I&#8217;m a big &#8220;Magic City&#8221; fan, too.) As I was assured in advance, Kathleen was a total sweetheart, and as we chatted over the course of a half-hour, the topics included the series that brought us together in the first place, of course, but also &#8220;Maniac Mansion,&#8221; &#8220;90210,&#8221; &#8220;Tin Man,&#8221; and even the hilarious-but-underrated IFC series, &#8220;The Business.&#8221; Read on&#8230;but don&#8217;t forget that the &#8220;Boss&#8221; Season 2 finale airs Friday night on Starz!</em></p>
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<p><strong>Bullz-Eye: So the second season of “Boss” is coming to a close…</strong></p>
<p><strong>Kathleen Robertson</strong>: Yep!</p>
<p><strong>BE: Your character, Kitty O’Neill, had a decidedly different dynamic in Season 2 than she did in Season 1. How much forewarning did you have about how Kitty’s storyline was going to play out during this season? Did you know from the get-go, or was it only doled out to you on an episode-by-episode basis?</strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: I knew from the get-go. I sat down with the writers at the very beginning of the season, and they sort of explained to me what the storyline was for her. With the exception of the finale. They were very secretive about the finale, and I didn’t know what was going to happen until the week before we shot it and I read the script. Have you seen the finale?</p>
<p><strong>BE: I have not yet. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: [Tries and fails to disguise her giddiness.] It’s so good. It’s <em>so</em> good. They kept saying to me all through the year, “Just be patient. Just be patient and wait for (episode)10.” I said, “What does that <em>mean</em>, though? Like, am I gonna get <em>killed</em>? What are you…what happens in 10?” “Just be patient.” And then they’d say, “10 is your episode, and you’re gonna be really happy with it.” So I was. And I <em>am</em> really happy with 10. It’s <em>amazing</em>.</p>
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<p><strong>BE: 10 may be “your episode,” but it’s arguable that you’ve had a <em>lot</em> of episodes. Kitty’s evolved throughout the season, at least in a certain sense. At the same time, though, she also ends up making it pretty clear that she doesn’t really know who she is unless she has someone to serve. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: Yeah, that’s true.</p>
<p><strong>BE: Did you see that as being a part of her character from the very beginning, or was that something you discovered as time went on?</strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: Well, with Season 1… [Hesitates.] Farhad (Safinia) said to me at the beginning of the series, “For Season 1, Kitty almost has a reverse arc.” She kind of starts here… [Holds hand up and then begins lowering it.] …and ends here. And it’s kind of like that in Season 2 as well, because from the moment we meet her in this season, she’s pregnant, she’s sort of deciding if she even wants to be in politics anymore…she’s deciding who she is. So the journey for her over Season 2 was a much more internal one, and it was much more a case of asking, “Who am I without my identity?” And for her, the identity isn’t just working for Kane. It’s being in this whole world that she’s sacrificed everything for. So she sort of flirts with the idea of trying to be an alternate Kitty throughout the season, and by the end… [Smiles knowingly.] When you see the finale, I think she ends up where she belongs.</p>
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<p><strong>BE: In regards to the “alternate Kitty,” for instance, we see her trying to make something out of her relationship with Sam, but from what we know of her, we don’t even really know for sure that she can <em>have</em> a proper romantic relationship.</strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: Absolutely. Like, the abortion in Episode 3, that was an interesting moment for her, because…well, to me, it seemed to represent a lot more than just what it was on the surface. There was the idea of what that life would be like, the choice of a woman considering trying to be something that she’s not. But Kitty…she’ll never be that. She’s a political animal, and that’s the only way she feels alive. I think that we all sort of have those components and parts of personality, the parts of us that are damaged and the parts of us that don’t work right, and we try to fix them, but sometimes those things are just who we are. And I think that, for her, by the end of the season, she kind of comes around to the realization of, like, “I’m probably not going to change. And that’s okay.” And…I kind of love that about her. [Laughs.]</p>
<p>For me, it’s much more interesting to get into the intricacies of who she is and why she is the way she is than to sort of…like, the midsection of Season 2 was definitely challenging, because it was that thing of, “Would she <em>really</em> ever fall for this guy?” Absolutely not. But she’s going to try, just because he seems like…he sort of represented truth. It’s, like, “This guy’s pursuing the truth, this guy’s the real deal, what you see is what you get.” And then she slowly realizes that that actually wasn’t even the case with him. Yeah, there were definitely moments during this season where I was thinking, “She would never do this, this is absolutely not her.” And they would say, “Well, yeah, exactly! That’s the point!”</p>
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<p><strong>BE: Kitty would also seem to be a challenging character to play, given that a great deal of her reactions tend to involve looks rather than lines. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: Absolutely. And I love that. I’m always the actor that loves to <em>cut</em> lines. I would much rather try to convey what I’m thinking and feeling without any dialogue. That’s, for me, the most fun. Yeah, I get to do that a lot, and it’s really nice. And our show affords that. A lot of television…I mean, I watch a lot of television, and I think that you can do that as an actor, but if the show doesn’t sort of unfold in a way that lets you do that, it’s missed. Do you know what I mean? Like, if the camera’s always moving and never letting you have your moment, then the audience won’t be able to pick up on those nuances. And I like that about our show: you can really have that. A lot of times, the camera just stays on the person that has no dialogue. I mean, if you remember, in Season 1, even with Kelsey (Grammer’s) very first scene in the whole series, when he was finding out his diagnosis, the camera never went off of his face, and he didn’t have a single line. So the show does that a lot, and I love that. Like, I’m talking to you and blabbing away, but what you’re registering is kind of more interesting than me just blabbing away. So I love that, and…I’m rambling. [Laughs.] But you know what I mean.</p>
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<p><strong>BE: Some critics have accused the series of offering gratuitous nudity. Not that I have a problem with that, per se, but do you view it as being only what’s necessary to achieve the dramatic effect, or do you sometimes go, “Wow, really”? </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: I…I don’t know. [Hesitates.] Do you feel like they accuse a <em>lot</em> of cable shows of having too much nudity, or is it specific to this show? Because to <em>me</em>…and maybe I’m wrong…I don’t think that there’s more nudity or sex on this show than there would be on another show on HBO or Showtime.</p>
<p><strong>BE: Well, I think at least part of it may come from the fact that the show is ostensibly a political drama first and foremost, so it’s, like, “Is it really furthering the storyline that much more to have all of this in here?” </strong></p>
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<p><strong>KR</strong>: I think that the component of sex in “Boss” comes from the fact that I know the writers have always felt, and Farhad said from the very beginning, that you can’t truthfully make a show about politics and not have sex be a very big part of it.</p>
<p><strong>BE: Well, I understand the sex/power aspect, of course. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: And look at some of the stuff that went on sexually in politics – in reality, I mean – during our first season. It was kind of insane. So…this isn’t the NBC version of what this world would be like. It’s the cable version of what this world would be like and who these people really would be. You know, people have asked me, “Do you feel comfortable playing a character that really goes there and really has so many extreme scenes?” And for me, it’s, like, if that’s all it was, then that would not be interesting to me and not something that I would be interested in being a part of. But all you need to do is watch an episode of our show to realize that it’s…it’s a really fucking good show. [Laughs.]</p>
<p>It’s really amazing writing, and these characters are really fascinating, every single one of them. So I just don’t really think about that component of it, because it’s part of who she is. It’s a huge part of her identity, and I think that to not be willing to go there would be doing the character a disservice and doing the material a disservice. I knew going into this show, when I read the first episode and I knew Gus Van Sant was producing it and I knew it was part of the character, so it was a decision: “Either I’m gonna go for this and really play this role or I’m not going to do it. But I’m not going to do it half-assed. Either I’m gonna do it or I’m not gonna do it.” So I made that choice to do it, and…I’ve done it. [Laughs.]</p>
<p><strong>BE: Before I ask you about a few other things you’ve done over the years, I believe I’m supposed to casually bring up the new <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/starz-play/id550221096?mt=8" target="_blank">Starz Play application</a> for Cox subscribers. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: [Laughs.] Yes! Let’s talk Starz Play!</p>
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<p><strong>BE: Have you yourself had a chance to play around with the app? </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: Yeah! It’s amazing. You can do it on your iPad or your iPhone, and it’s, um, I guess it’s similar to… [Lowers voice.] I’m probably not supposed to say this, but it’s kind of like HBO Go, right?</p>
<p><strong>BE: I don’t think that would be inappropriate to say. I mean, it <em>is</em> the Starz equivalent to HBO Go, so I think that’s a fair point of comparison. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: Well, it’s great, I know that. And this show…I mean, don’t you feel that, like all great cable shows, if you haven’t seen them, it’s fun to be able to go all the way back and start from the very beginning? We’ve done 18 shows so far, and you really have to go back and start from the beginning to fully understand and appreciate it and get the most out of it. That’s always the challenge with cable shows, especially with Starz, which is a network that not everyone gets. It’s the challenge of getting the shows out there and getting people to see them. We’ve had some endorsements recently which have helped us, like Oprah. Did you hear that?</p>
<p><strong>BE: I didn’t. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: Oh, yeah, Oprah’s been Tweeting about it and saying that “Boss” is one of her favorite shows. And Anderson Cooper did a big thing about how he was missing “Breaking Bad,” but that “Boss” has replaced “Breaking Bad” for him. So things like that really help a show like this. We need to raise awareness and get the eyeballs on us, and I think the Starz Play app will really help with that.</p>
<p><strong>BE: Hopefully it’ll do the same for “Magic City” as well. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: Yeah! Absolutely.</p>
<p><strong>BE: Okay, time to hit on a few other things you’ve done in your career, and I’ll start by saying that I would’ve absolutely been fine if we’d bypassed “Boss” altogether and you’d just told me 30 minutes worth of anecdotes about working with Joe Flaherty on “Maniac Mansion.”</strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: [Gasps excitedly.] Oh, my gosh! I love Joe. He’s such a good friend of mine. He’s amazing.</p>
<p><strong>BE: So when you started working with him, were you aware that he was <em>Joe Flaherty</em>? </strong></p>
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<p><strong>KR</strong>: <em>Oh</em>, yes. Oh, yes, I knew. I knew <em>all</em> of the “SCTV” people. I grew up in northern Ontario, and so growing up in Canada, comedy is a big deal, and “SCTV” is an even bigger deal. I mean, you grow up watching reruns of it. It was reruns of “SCTV” on all the time. [Laughs.] And “Kids in the Hall” and all that great comedic stuff. So, yeah, when I got “Maniac Mansion,” it was all the “SCTV” people. It was Joe, but it was also Eugene Levy, who was the producer of that show, and we had all the writers and all the people from “SCTV,” the hair and makeup people and everything. So it was a huge deal. And my dad was <em>so</em> excited, because, y’know, “SCTV” is God there. And Joe was amazing. And it was a such a cool first job for me, because we did 66 episodes, and it was very similar to “SCTV,” in that every week we would do a show, but then we would do parodies. So they would come to me and be, like, “Okay, this week you’re going to play Juliette Lewis from ‘Cape Fear,’ and we’re gonna build your ears out a little bit and we’re going to get you a retainer and the wig.” And they would teach me how to do those. Like, “This is what you need to watch for. Watch the way they hold their body and the way they say things.” And it was just the most amazing training for me as a young actor to have those comic geniuses around me, saying, “Do this and do that and&#8230;just watch the way she sits. Pick up one little trait and just keep hitting that trait.” So it was amazing. A great, great experience. And George Lucas produced it, which was bizarre, too. It was a bizarre experience. But it was great. And so fun.</p>
<p><strong>BE: Do you have a preference between comedy and drama? You’ve certainly shown aptitude for both. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: It’s funny. I did a series a few years ago that I produced called “The Business,” which aired on IFC.</p>
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<p><strong>BE: I have Season 1 on DVD. And wish they’d release Season 2.</strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: I know. So do I! I loved doing that. The guy who created that always says to me, “It’s so weird to me that you do all this drama. You’re a comedian! What’s with all this dramatic shit?” [Laughs.] So, yeah, I’ve definitely done both comedy and drama, but I tend to get more dramatic offers. That tends to be what people send me. But I love doing comedy. I’m actually going to do a movie in a couple of weeks that’s a comedy, which’ll be kind of fun to do, to mix it up a bit. After playing Kitty, I need a few laughs!</p>
<p><strong>BE: What’s it like being on the other side of the camera? As you say, you produced “The Business,” and you’ve written a script or two here and there. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: It’s great.</p>
<p><strong>BE: What made you decide to go that route? Was it just to try and spice things up?</strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: I think it’s just a natural progression. I’ve been doing this for so long, and…I really love to write. And I really love just the ability to be creative without having to sort of wait for someone to give me permission to be creative. Being an actor is all about waiting for that phone call, for someone to say, “Do you want to come and do this?” Writing, for me, is the most creatively fulfilling thing that I do, just because it’s mine. And I don’t have to listen to anyone else. I love that. And I’m hoping that’s something that I can continue to do. I really, really love it. I’ve written a couple of pilot scripts. I sold the first pilot script, and the second one that I wrote, I’m out with it right now, trying to sell that. So we’ll see!</p>
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<p><strong>BE: Similar to the comedy-versus-drama question, do you have a preference between working in film and on television? Although the dividing line is getting smaller all the time, I suppose.</strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: I definitely have a preference as far as what <em>kind</em> of television. Cable television? Absolutely. Network television? Not so much. I mean, there isn’t a single show that I personally watch on network right now. Do you? What do you watch on network?</p>
<p><strong>BE: Honestly, I tend to watch mostly sitcoms, and when I watch hour-longs, they tend to be sci-fi. I’m really enjoying “Revolution” at the moment. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: Okay, I haven’t seen that yet. I’ll have to catch up on that.</p>
<p><strong>BE: C’mon. You even starred on (“Girls Club”) with Giancarlo Esposito, too. You’re slacking off. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: [Laughs.] I love him. I just saw him during the Emmy weekend, and he’s just the sweetest guy. Have you ever interviewed him?</p>
<p><strong>BE: I have. He’s great.</strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: He’s so sweet! I just love him. He’s such a great guy. He was so happy for me and “Boss,” and I was so happy for him and everything he’s doing. God, he’s so <em>good</em> on “Breaking Bad”! He’s amazing. I think as an actor, if you get the opportunity to be on a great cable show and to pursue that character over the course of 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 hours…there’s nothing that touches that. Doing a movie is great, but you only have two hours to sort of figure out and explore who that character is. With a great role on television, it’s just so fun to see all those little details and all those little colors of who that person is. You don’t get that in film. So I love doing “Boss.” Doing a role like this on a show like this…it’s amazing.</p>
<p><strong>BE: The writers obviously have the final say, but how much input have you had on “Boss” as far as developing your character? In other words, what have you brought to Kitty that wasn’t there before you arrived? </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: Well, in Season 1, no, not at all. Because Season 1 was basically…you know, when we started Season 1, they already had the entire season mapped out, so there wasn’t really any room for anything to change. Season 2 was a little different, just in that we had a little bit more input and there was a little bit more discussion upfront about, “Would this happen? Would that happen? Does this feel false to you?” Because at a certain point with television, it does very much become a case where these characters are ours, and it’s our interpretation of who that person is. So the directors come in and out, and…television is very interesting that way. It’s very different from film, because with film it’s all very much about the director, and the director will give you notes and focus. But in television, sometimes the directors will say, “Well, you tell me: would she do this? Would she sit there?” And you’re, like, “Well, no, she wouldn’t sit there, because she knows the door’s there and they’d see her, so she’d never do that.” “Oh, okay, let’s move it, then. Let’s have it here instead.” So it does become much more…you’re navigating that character through the world.</p>
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<p><strong>BE: Time to ask the obligatory Clare-on-“90210” question, and it’s a two-parter: do you have a favorite Clare storyline, and do you have a most-ludicrous storyline that still stands out?</strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: [Laughs.] Oh, Clare. It’s so funny, but, honestly, I don’t know if I have a bad memory or if I’ve just kind of blocked it out, but people ask me questions about “90210,” and I genuinely can’t…I mean, it’s just so long ago! I think I had…didn’t I have a ridiculous “I Dream of Jeannie” Halloween costume once? That’s probably the most ludicrous moment I can think of. That was weird, because that was my first American job, and it was the first thing I did when I moved here. It was right after “Maniac Mansion.” And when I auditioned for the show, I had never <em>seen</em> the show. That’s the truth. I called my sisters, and I called my best friend back in Hamilton, and I said, “I’m auditioning for ‘90210.’” And I knew of it, of course, because it was a huge, massive phenomenon. So I said, “I’m going to go audition, so can you tell me…I have the sides here, and I need to know who these characters are. Like, who’s Brandon? Who’s he played by?” “Oh, that’s Jason Priestley.” “Okay, so this scene is with Jason Priestley. I know who that is. What about this Donna? Who’s that?” I mean, genuinely, I had no idea. And my sisters, of course, and my best friend were freaking out. And then when I got the job, it was originally just for five episodes. So it wasn’t even really much of an audition. It was just kind of…I went in, read, and it was, like, the next day, “Oh, you got the part, it’s five episodes.” And then it turned into 99. [Laughs.] Which I love. I love that it’s one short of a hundred. I got out just in time!</p>
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<p><strong>BE: How did you enjoy getting to play the villainess in “Tin Man”?</strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: Oh, I loved that show! That was great. So much fun. Zooey (Deschanel) was a blast to work with, and it was a great role. Again, it was a really challenging, strong, complicated, fucked-up woman. [Laughs.] It was great, though. Those costumes were something else. My body was trashed every day. I mean, the bruises and the cuts from the armor and the weight of it&#8230; The guy who won the Academy Award for “Moulin Rouge,” he did all the costumes, so he was, uh, intense. So you <em>wore</em> those costumes! So, yeah, it was great. A great role and a lot of fun.</p>
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<p><strong>BE: Do you have any Robert Halmi stories? Or possibly an impression? It seems like everyone’s got one of those, too. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: He was just really, really sweet. Do you mean <em>bad</em> stories?</p>
<p><strong>BE: No, quite the opposite. Everyone seems to love the guy. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: Yeah, he’s just a teddy bear. So sweet. And that movie…it’s so weird, because that’s the only science-fiction show I’ve ever done. I mean, I guess it’s technically considered sci-fi. But it’s the only one I’ve ever done, and it is just a whole other world! [Laughs.] The fans from the sci-fi world? They are <em>loyal</em>. I joined Twitter fairly recently – I’m trying to get better at it – but someone Tweeted me a photo of this event they were at, and there were all these girls dressed up as Azkadellia from “Tin Man.” Just really amazing costumes, with the wig and…just amazing. I was just blown away. I mean, that was a few years ago, but here are these girls dressed up like Azkadellia. I’m telling you, it’s pretty intense. I can’t imagine if you were on…like, I just did a movie with Michael Shanks, who was on &#8220;Stargate,&#8221; and the stories he told me about the fans and how intense they are…it’s amazing. [Pounds fist on table.] We need those fans on “Boss”! Where’s our crazy people dressing up like Mayor Kane and Kitty? [Laughs.] We need <em>those</em> Halloween costumes!</p>
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<p><strong>BE: Excluding “Boss” for the moment, since it’s current, do you have a favorite project you’ve worked on over the years that didn’t get the love you thought it deserved? </strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: Hmmm. [Long pause.] I’ve done a lot of indie movies that I felt…like, I did a movie I was very proud of with Mark Ruffalo called “XX/XY” which I thought was…it was work I was really proud of, and 50 people saw it, I think. So a lot of little movies like that. A lot of Sundance movies. I’m trying to think of others. But independent movies in general…I think that’s why everyone’s doing television now. The independent film world has changed so much since its heyday in the ‘90s. That’s all I did after I left “90210.” That’s all I wanted to do when I was able to do it. Nowadays…I don’t know if it’s possible to just have a career and make a living doing indie films. It’s just changed so much. I mean, a million-dollar movie back then happened all the time. Now, it’s, like, a million-dollar movie would be made for $200 thousand, and the actors would be making a hundred dollars a day, and it would <em>maybe</em> get into a couple of festivals. It’s changed a lot. Now you’ve got independent movies starring Jennifer Aniston, with people like that showing up at Sundance promoting these two million dollar movies. It’s just…I mean, everybody says this now, but that’s why Gus Van Sant is one of the producers of our show, that’s why Todd Haynes is doing television: because it’s really the way to continue that spirit of what independent film is without having to compromise creatively.</p>
<p><strong>BE: To bring it full circle and close on “Boss,” can you tease anything at all about what happens with Kitty and her storyline in the season finale? Or is it giving too much away to say anything at all?</strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: I can just reiterate that they spent all year telling me, “Wait for 10.” And when they sent me 10 and I read it and came to the set, our show runner looked at me and was, like, “Yeah…?” And I gave her the thumbs-up and said, “<em>Yeah</em>.”</p>
<p><strong>BE:</strong> <strong>Worth the wait?</strong></p>
<p><strong>KR</strong>: <em>Totally </em>worth the wait. Getting that script and reading it, I was, like, “This is one of the best pieces of material I’ve ever been handed to do.” So I was thrilled with where Kitty ended up in Episode 10. I was very happy…in a sick, twisted way. [Laughs.] And then Francis Guinan, who plays Gov. Cullen, he came into the trailer and looked at me and was basically, like, “Oh, you poor thing. You and Kane are just a match made in heaven, aren’t you?” Which made me happy…and shows exactly how warped I am. But that’s what I love about her!</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight marks the return of “Dallas” to the airwaves, with TNT offering viewers a look at the latest generation of Ewings while also giving original cast members Larry Hagman, Patrick Duffy, and Linda Gray an opportunity to get in on the fun. For what it’s worth, I quite enjoyed the pilot, but I’ll freely admit [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight marks the return of “Dallas” to the airwaves, with TNT offering viewers a look at the latest generation of Ewings while also giving original cast members Larry Hagman, <a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television/interviews/2011/patrick_duffy.htm" target="_blank">Patrick Duffy</a>, and <a href="http://www.premiumhollywood.com/2010/09/11/a-chat-with-linda-gray-expecting-mary-dallas/" target="_blank">Linda Gray</a> an opportunity to get in on the fun. For what it’s worth, I quite enjoyed the pilot, but I’ll freely admit that the only reason that I was interested in revisiting Southfork Ranch in 2012 was because of those original cast members. </p>
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<p>No matter how brilliantly or badly they turn out, I’ve always been a sucker for TV series revivals, be it as a “next generation” sort of series like this one or as a reunion movie, so I thought I&#8217;d throw together a list of some of my favorites for your reading enjoyment. The only caveats: I’m not counting occasions when a series jumped to the big screen, i.e. the not-very-good theatrical &#8220;Get Smart&#8221; movie, &#8220;The Nude Bomb,&#8221; nor am I including animated series in the mix&#8230;although if I did, you can bet the animated &#8220;Star Trek&#8221; series would be at the top of my list.</p>
<p>Okay, let&#8217;s roll&#8230;</p>
<div class="blog_entry_subhead_black" style="text-align: center;">90210 (2008-present)</div>
<p>When The CW first kicked off its return to West Beverly High School, the burning questions from virtually every TV critic who covered the series involved which of the original cast members would be returning. In the end, Jennie Garth (Kelly), Shannen Doherty (Brenda), Tori Spelling (Donna), Ann Gillespie (Jackie Taylor, Kelly&#8217;s mom), and Joe E. Tata (Nat, the proprietor of the Peach Pit) all ended up making it back to the familiar zip code for an episode or two, generally proving to be the most entertaining parts of those particular episodes. Since the show&#8217;s gone all new-school, though, I can&#8217;t be bothered to keep up with it. </p>
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<div class="blog_entry_subhead_black" style="text-align: center;">Homicide: The Movie (2000)</div>
<p>This feels like a bit of a cheat, since it wasn&#8217;t so much a revival of an old series as it was an attempt to wrap up plot threads that had been left dangling when &#8220;Homicide: Life on the Street&#8221; departed the airwaves the year before. With that said, however, it still technically falls within the realm of a reunion film, and it&#8217;s one of the best ones you&#8217;re likely to find, so that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s here.</p>
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<div class="blog_entry_subhead_black" style="text-align: center;">Hey, Hey, It’s the Monkees (1997)</div>
<p>I always thought that the concept of this film, which posited that the Monkees continued to live together even after their series was cancelled, was an extremely clever one. I just wish the band&#8217;s reunion album, <em>Justus</em>, had been even half as enjoyable. </p>
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<div class="blog_entry_subhead_black" style="text-align: center;">The Dukes of Hazzard: Reunion! (1997)</div>
<p>What can I tell you? I grew up about 15 minutes from the North Carolina border, and &#8220;The Dukes of Hazzard&#8221; was absolutely must-see TV for me when I was growing up. Even though I was 27 when Bo and Luke got back in the General Lee again, I was still hootin&#8217; and a&#8217;hollerin&#8217; with excitement. It&#8217;s just a shame that Boss Hogg didn&#8217;t live to see it. (RIP, Sorrell Booke.) </p>
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<div class="blog_entry_subhead_black" style="text-align: center;">Get Smart, Again! (1989)</div>
<p>First things first: &#8220;The Nude Bomb&#8221; was terrible, and I hope whoever thought it was a good idea to put Maxwell Smart on the big screen without all of the elements that made &#8220;Get Smart&#8221; so funny got the punishment they deserved. I&#8217;m not saying that &#8220;Get Smart, Again!&#8221; is fantastic, either, but if you asked a fan of the original series to pick which of the two efforts they preferred, I absolutely cannot conceive of anyone picking anything other than this one. (I only wish the revival of the series with Andy Dick as Don Adams&#8217; son had been as enjoyable.)</p>
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<div class="blog_entry_subhead_black" style="text-align: center;">Mission: Impossible (1988-1990)</div>
<p>What started out as a way to get around a writer&#8217;s strike by re-filming episodes of the old series ultimately evolved into the adventures of a new generation of Impossible Missions Force agents, still led by Jim Phelps (Peter Graves). An additional tie to the classic &#8220;M:I&#8221; came via the character of Grant Collier, son of original team member Barney Collier, a situation which offered an addition wink at the audience by having Grant played by Phil Morris, the real son of Greg Morris, who played Barney. (Linda Day George also reprised her role as Linda Casey on an episode.) </p>
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<div class="blog_entry_subhead_black" style="text-align: center;">A Very Brady Christmas (1988)</div>
<p>Schmaltzy, yes, but consider how much better it was than &#8220;The Brady Brides.&#8221; Okay, so maybe that&#8217;s not saying much. Still, the holiday theme served as a nice framing device, and it&#8217;s not like the original series didn&#8217;t live in a world of happily-ever-after on a regular basis. </p>
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<div class="blog_entry_subhead_black" style="text-align: center;">The Return of the Six Million Dollar Man<br />
and the Bionic Woman (1987)</div>
<p>The sequels were a case of declining returns, even if one of them <em>did</em> co-star a young Sandra Bullock, but I can still remember the depth of my geeking out when I found out about this. Having revisited it on the recent &#8220;Six Million Dollar Man&#8221; box set, I won&#8217;t claim that it&#8217;s aged well, but I still have my memories.</p>
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<div class="blog_entry_subhead_black" style="text-align: center;">Return to Mayberry (1986)</div>
<p>This may sound strange, but I&#8217;m pretty sure that it was this TV movie that actually convinced me to watch &#8220;The Andy Griffith Show.&#8221; That&#8217;s backwards, I realize, but as a kid, I always preferred shows that features kids as main characters, and although Opie was a regular, the plots really didn&#8217;t revolve around him all that much. Since then, of course, I&#8217;ve come to realize what a wonderful series it is, and this was a lovely look back at Mayberry that worked quite well, I thought. </p>
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<div class="blog_entry_subhead_black" style="text-align: center;">Perry Mason Returns (1985)</div>
<p>I can&#8217;t even be bothered to go to Wikipedia and see how many subsequent &#8220;Perry Mason&#8221; movies there were. I just remember how excited my mother was when this one first came on. (She&#8217;d been positively addicted to the original series.) The idea of Judge Mason stepping down from the bench in order to defend his former secretary Della Street against a murder charge was a great premise for the film, and I&#8217;m not surprised that it was successful enough to warrant further &#8220;Perry Mason&#8221; adventures. All things being equal, though, I think they would&#8217;ve been better served if they&#8217;d made it an hour-long series rather than a bunch of two-hour movies that invariably dragged at various points. Oh, well. </p>
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<div class="blog_entry_subhead_black" style="text-align: center;">The Return of the Man from UNCLE (1983)</div>
<p>At the time this premiered, I&#8217;d never actually seen an episode of the original series &#8211; I only knew it from its reputation in a book about cult TV &#8211; but I still enjoyed it immensely. (I also wasn&#8217;t as bothered by some when Patrick Macnee stepped in to replace Leo G. Carroll out of necessity.) Having said that, the cameo by George Lazenby as a secret agent referred to as &#8220;J.B.&#8221; was a step too far into silliness. </p>
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<div class="blog_entry_subhead_black" style="text-align: center;">Still the Beaver (1983)</div>
<p>A lot of people had problems with the idea of taking America&#8217;s perfect family &#8211; the Cleavers &#8211; and revealing that they ended up being just as dysfunctional as everyone else, with Beaver getting a divorce and so forth, but I just thought it made it seem more real. But, hell, I was only 13 at the time, so what did I know about reality?</p>
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<div class="blog_entry_subhead_black" style="text-align: center;">The Wild Wild West Revisted (1979)</div>
<p>It was never going to be the same without the presence of Michael Dunn as Dr. Miguelito Loveless, but the conceit of having the not-nearly-as-diminutive Paul Williams playing Dr. Miguelito Loveless, Jr. just about made up for it. Robert Conrad and Ross Martin were clearly having the time of their lives playing a couple of old guys getting back in the saddle again, and the fun translated to the viewers quite well. </p>
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<div class="blog_entry_subhead_black" style="text-align: center;">Rescue from Gilligan’s Island (1978)</div>
<p>For my money, this is the definitive TV-reunion film, even if Tina Louise <em>couldn&#8217;t</em> be arsed to play Ginger. It captures the spirit of the original series perfectly, it gives people something they&#8217;d wanted to see for more than a decade (the Castaways finally getting off the island and back to civilization) and delivers it with surprising emotion, and &#8211; best of all &#8211; it ends by going full circle. Alas, that means that it also set up two pretty lifeless sequels, including the infamous &#8220;The Harlem Globetrotters on Gilligan&#8217;s Island,&#8221; but as a standalone film, it&#8217;s about as good as these things get. Yeah, that&#8217;s right: I just put &#8220;Rescue from Gilligan&#8217;s Island&#8221; in the same category as &#8220;Homicide: The Movie.&#8221; How often do you think <em>that </em>happens?</p>
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<div class="blog_entry_subhead_black" style="text-align: center;">Halloween with the New Addams Family (1977)</div>
<p>Don&#8217;t remember this one? Hell, I&#8217;m not even sure why <em>I</em> remember it, aside from the fact that I&#8217;ve been an &#8220;Addams Family&#8221; aficionado for as long as I can remember. But I think it&#8217;s the only time we got to see the original TV cast members playing their parts in glorious color, and as &#8217;70s artifacts go, it&#8217;s pretty entertaining.</p>
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<div class="blog_entry_subhead_black" style="text-align: center;">The 5 Most Disappointing TV Reunions</div>
<p><strong>1.	The New WKRP in Cincinnati </strong>(1991-1993): Setting aside the handful of episodes in which Howard Hesseman and Loni Anderson returned to reprise their roles as Dr. Johnny Fever and Jennifer Marlowe, respectively, this attempt to recapture the magic of one of the funniest sitcoms of the late ‘70s and early ‘80s failed far more often than it succeeded. </p>
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<p><strong>2.	I Dream of Jeannie: 15 Years Later</strong> (1985): I’ll give them credit for trying to put together the best possible reunion movie they could with the cast they had available to them, but while it was good to see Barbara Eden, Bill Daily, and Hayden Rorke playing Jeannie, Roger, and Dr. Bellows again, it never should’ve been made without Larry Hagman. And to have Wayne Rogers playing Tony Nelson? Give me a break. </p>
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<p><strong>3.	The Bradys</strong> (1990): Bobby becomes a paraplegic! Jan can’t conceive! Marcia battles alcoholism! Every one of these is an actual storyline from the short-lived attempt to transform the lives of a man named Brady, his lovely lady, and their six kids into an hour-long drama. It worked for a holiday movie because there was a happy ending to look forward to, but this was just depressing as all hell. </p>
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<p><strong>4.	Mary and Rhoda</strong> (2000): I’m sure it sounded like a great idea on paper to revisit Mary Richards-Cronin and Rhoda Morgenstern-Rousseau as they enter their 60s, but the decision to offer precious little in the way of references to their friends from the old show and put two of the most memorable sitcom characters of the ‘70s into a two-hour dramedy just didn’t work. </p>
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<p><strong>5.	The Facts of Life Reunion</strong> (2001): No Nancy McKeon. <em>FAIL</em>.</p>
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		<title>The Light from the TV Shows: Shannen Doherty &amp; Kurt Iswarienko &#8211; A Match Made in Reality-Show Heaven</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Despite its title and its subject matter, &#8220;Shannen Says&#8221; &#8211; the new WEtv reality series in which Shannen Doherty plans her latest and, God willing, last wedding &#8211; isn&#8217;t just about Shannen Doherty. It&#8217;s also about her husband-to-be, photographer Kurt Iswarienko, who, to hear the couple tell it, earns as much focus on the show [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Despite its title and its subject matter, &#8220;Shannen Says&#8221; &#8211; the new WEtv reality series in which Shannen Doherty plans her latest and, God willing, last wedding &#8211; isn&#8217;t just about Shannen Doherty. It&#8217;s also about her husband-to-be, photographer Kurt Iswarienko, who, to hear the couple tell it, earns as much focus on the show as his blushing bride. Granted, they may have been feeding me a bit of what I wanted to hear, since I began our encounter at the TCA Press Tour with the explanation that Bullz-Eye is very much a guy&#8217;s site, but they certainly spun their story well, &#8217;cause I bought it. Or maybe I was somewhat swayed by having had a slight crush on Ms. Doherty since we were both in our teens. Either way, the conversation went swimmingly, and in addition to discussing their TV endeavor, I also got a bit of insight into Iswarienko&#8217;s photography, and by the end of it all, it was all &#8220;Wilford Brimley&#8221; this and &#8220;Jennie Garth&#8221; that, like we were old pals. Good times&#8230;</em></p>
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<p><strong>Bullz-Eye: Kurt, most guys have a tendency to view weddings as more of a means to an end rather than something to really get excited about, so I can’t imagine what it took to get you involved in a show that focuses on every single aspect of the wedding process.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Kurt Iswarienko</strong>: I agree with you that most guys probably share that sentiment. [Laughs.] The cool thing is that I didn’t have to deal with planning the wedding at all, because my job was to plan the honeymoon. And Shannen did the planning of the wedding. So it wasn’t any kind of hassle or nightmare at all to go into.</p>
<p><strong>BE: Shannen, I’ve read the press release for the show, and this is obviously something that you’ve been looking forward to for quite some time, the definitive dream wedding. </strong></p>
<p><strong>Shannen Doherty</strong>: Yeah. Uh… [Long pause.] Yeah. [Laughs.] I’m not quite sure how to… [Another long pause.] Yes, since we’ve been engaged, we’ve sort of talked about, “Okay, we’re doing to do a wedding, we’re going to do it right,” and definitely this is. But I’m also not that girl who, from the time I was six, dreamed about having this fantasy dream wedding, or that I just had had had to get married.</p>
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<p><strong>BE: So how early did David Tutera come into the mix? Was he always going to be a part of it?</strong></p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: You know, I think… [Hesitates.] He probably came into the mix pre-production, when, y’know, you’re sort of talking about the show and the wedding, and I had said to my executive at the time, “I think I’m going to hire a wedding coordinator, just because I need one, but also because while I’m working I need someone to take my vision and make it happen.” And then the network said, “Well, how about David?” And I said, “Uh, <em>duh</em>!” [Laughs.] “Great!” So he came on pretty much in pre-production, I guess. Pretty early on.</p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: That, and we spent a whole Sunday watching…</p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: …a “My Fair Wedding” marathon. [Laughs.]</p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: …a “My Fair Wedding” marathon. We both got sucked into it somehow, and we were, like, “Of <em>course</em> he’s the guy!”</p>
<p><strong>BE: How has he been to work with? Does he throw things at you, or does he try to get you to brainstorm? </strong></p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: I think what probably even David would say, because it was something we actually talked about, is that, on his show, the brides come to him and he goes, “No, no, no, your idea is awful, let me change it and make it mine.” And this was very different, because it wasn’t about a show. It was about an actual, real wedding, and I had a definitive vision, and there was no negotiating with me. None. And he didn’t even try, because that wasn’t his job. His job was to actually be a wedding coordinator. And a wedding planner and a wedding consultant. And that means you take the bride’s vision and you make it happen. It doesn’t mean that you look at her and say, “Your idea sucks.”</p>
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<p><strong>BE: It makes good TV, but not necessarily a good wedding, at least in the real world. </strong></p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: Right. So he… I mean, maybe he… [Hesitates.] Maybe he hated all the ideas. But I think he liked them. And, you know, like I said, there was never any room for negotiations with what the wedding was going to be, the cover scheme, or anything else. This was always what I was going to do. But the wedding turned out great, and David was super helpful, and…I’m glad we did it.</p>
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<p><strong>KI</strong>: What, the marriage?</p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: [Laughs.] Yeah</p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: Okay, good.</p>
<p><strong>BE: So it has to be asked: what do you think guys will get out of this show? Because surely they’ll be dragged kicking and screaming into watching it by their wives or significant others, but what do you think they’ll get out of it once they’re there?</strong></p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: You know, I think it’s… [Hesitates.] Here’s what I’ve got to say about our show versus a lot of other shows that I think men will like: I realize we’re on a women’s network, but it’s definitely not a heavily female-slanted show. It is very evenly matched between the two of us, and it definitely shows a guy’s standpoint versus a woman’s standpoint, and…it’s honest. I think most women kind of don’t love these shows because they sit there rolling their eyes going, “Yeah, right, like that’s honest. Like that’s true. Like the guy really does that all the time.” I know I do that. So I’m assuming most people do that. [Laughs.] And with this show, you don’t roll your eyes. You never have that moment, because we made a deal with each other going in that, no matter what anybody else said or anybody else wanted, we were going to stay honest and truthful and authentic to who we are as individuals and in a relationship. So there’s not one fake moment in the show. [To Kurt.] But what do you think?</p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: Um, I think… You know, the extent of most guys’ opinion about women when it comes to these things is that water-cooler thing of, “They’re all the same, dude.” And then women say the same thing about men, and then nothing gets resolved. Why would a guy want to watch this show? Because they’ll see the two of us going through every problem that everyone else has, but there’s actual collaboration and resolution instead of problems, so there’s somewhere to go at the end of the day, as opposed to just throwing your hands up and saying, “Women are all crazy,” or, “Guys are all stupid,” or whatever.</p>
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<p><strong>SD</strong>: I mean, it’s not like we don’t have those moments. I mean, we both have those moments where we’re, like…well, you know.</p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: Yeah. And they’re going to see someone that’s significantly interesting, such as her, going through all the same shit that everyone goes through, and then me, who no one knows anything about, and I’m kind of like every guy in this occasion. And we’re working it out. We’re fighting sometimes, and we’re not fighting other times…it’s just relatable problems. It’s kind of a bit of a road map of what you could do to maybe not just walk away angry at the end of the day.</p>
<p><strong>BE: Kurt, I know you said that Shannen handled all of the wedding plans, but given your line of work, surely you at least got to pick the photographer. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: For the wedding? Uh, no, I did not.</p>
<p><strong>BE: Really? I would’ve figured that you’d have some pretty specific ideas about what kind of shots you’d want to have taken. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: I did not get to choose. In fact, there was someone else that I wanted, but…</p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: [Talking over Kurt.] You have to remember…</p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: It’s true! [Laughs.]</p>
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<p><strong>SD: </strong>…that the only reason why Kurt and I actually know each other is because I’ve been doing this for a really, really long time, and I have always handpicked my photographers who work with me. So I like to say that I have a very good eye… [Looks at Kurt and smiles.] …and the magazine that we met on, I had photographer approval. And I picked him. So, naturally, when it comes to a wedding&#8230;first off, the wedding is the woman’s event. It’s not the man’s. And it was, like, “Well, if I picked you for that shoot and made the right decision, not only in how beautiful the pictures turned out, not only in how talented you are as a photographer, but you became my husband…” I think I can pick the photographer for the wedding.</p>
<p><strong>BE: That seems fair. </strong></p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: Yeah! [Laughs.]</p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: Although I ended up in a relationship with you, so…we wouldn’t want that to happen with the wedding photographer, now, would we?</p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: [Incredulous.] It wouldn’t… [Starts laughing.] Where did you even…</p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: Well, you’re drawing comparisons between photographers and how great you are at picking them, so… [Looks at her face.] I’m <em>joking</em>.</p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: [Stares at him.] You’re <em>weird</em>.</p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: So are you.</p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: You are <em>so</em> strange… [Laughs.]</p>
<p><strong>BE: Okay, well, as long as I’ve turned the conversation to photography, I’m curious, Kurt, who some of your influences are. Because, I mean, I looked at some of your stuff online and…well, don’t let this go to your head, but it seemed like maybe there was some Anton Corbijn there. </strong></p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: Oh, for sure. I’ll openly admit that. I grew up first listening to U2 records, so I discovered Anton Corbijn through that, and, y’know, when you start looking at a lot of other photography, you realize that guys like Anton Corbijn are completely unique and talented beyond any comprehension. So I for sure am heavily inspired by him. And others like him.</p>
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<p class="photo_center"><strong><em>Kurt snaps a shot of the elusive Benicio del Toro</em></strong></p>
<p><strong>BE: How do you go about deciding on the setting or theme of the photo you’re taking?</strong></p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: I…I dunno. Photos, I think, they just kind of end up creeping in on you when you’re with the person you’re photographing. You know, you just try to set up an environment that’s honest and conducive and free of any kind of pretense, and then if you’re lucky enough to get a good moment, then you can lock yourself in a dark room for a week and photo-shop and give it whatever else you want to give it. But if you don’t have the moment to begin with, you don’t have anything.</p>
<p><strong>BE: Has there been any photo that you’ve taken where you thought, “This is one I want to be remembered for”?</strong></p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: Well, I don’t know about that, but the ones that are great, the ones that end up having “legs,” if you like, it’s very obvious when you see it. You just kind of… Shannen’s actually an amazing editor of my photos, and I’m sure of anyone else’s photos, but some of my best stuff, she’s actually put the story together. I shoot a lot, and I’m not good at editing my own stuff, but she’s very good. She’s got a very sharp eye. She’s a good photographer, too.</p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: [Sweetly.] Thanks.</p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: Well, what <em>do</em> you do badly? [Laughs.]</p>
<p><strong>BE: Shannen, I’ve got a standard question that I ask every actor: what’s your favorite project you’ve worked on over the years that didn’t get the love you thought it deserved?</strong></p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: Oh, that’s a good question…</p>
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<p><strong>SD</strong>: That’s a <em>very</em> good question. Hmmmmm. That didn’t get the kind of love it deserved… I don’t really know, ‘cause I think many of my favorite projects, like “Heathers” and “Charmed” and “Mallrats” probably got a lot of love. I think… [Long pause.] You know, I did a miniseries called “<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUmw7duhGBI" target="_blank">Gone in the Night</a>” for CBS, and although it did excellent excellent excellent in the ratings, I don’t necessarily know that it got the recognition that it deserved. It was Dixie Carter and Ed Asner, and, you know, when you’re working with those two, you kind of can’t go wrong. You know, they’re sort of at the top of their game. They’re truly talented…or “were,” in Dixie’s case…people. I mean, Ed Asner? It’s, like, gimme a break.</p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: He’s a legend.</p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: Seriously. I mean, he’s Ed Asner. Every second you’re in his presence, you’re, like, “What can I learn from you? What can I soak up from you?” And he’s just so nice, and so giving as an actor. And Dixie…she was an amazing Southern woman, and I’m from the South, and she was also fantastic. And really thorough, I think, as an actor. She really thought out what she was doing. And for me, who’s a little bit more spontaneous, it was interesting to watch that. I learned a lot from it and took some of what she did, and I’ve ingrained it in my process now a little bit. So that for me was an amazing project to work on, and I’m not sure it got quite the love that it should’ve.</p>
<p><strong>BE: I don’t know if it’s underrated or overrated, but I have very fond memories of watching “Our House.” </strong></p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: Oh, yeah!</p>
<p><strong>BE: Our whole family used to watch it together, in fact. </strong></p>
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<p><strong>SD</strong>: That’s so funny. I got a phone call from Wilford (Brimley). Actually, it was when we were filming the show. And he was seeing if I would want to do, like, a…I don’t even know what, really. I don’t if they’re talking about having the family come back in sort of a new, updated special where it’s, like, “What did Chris Witherspoon do?” [Laughs.] Or if it’s just for a sit-down talk for the cast. It’s something, but I’m not quite sure what. But I was, like, “If you’re involved, I’m there.”</p>
<p><strong>BE: Did you see him on Craig Ferguson’s show?</strong></p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: No!</p>
<p><strong>BE: Oh, he was fantastic. </strong></p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: When was he on?</p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: We’re gonna have to go YouTube it.</p>
<p><strong>BE: He was clearly there solely because Craig Ferguson just wanted to talk to him. He had nothing to promote whatsoever, and he seemed utterly confused as to why Craig Ferguson would want to talk to him, but they chatted for maybe ten minutes, and I don’t know that anything he said was more than a sentence or two in length, and they were never very lengthy. </strong></p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: Yeah, that’s Wilford. [Laughs.]</p>
<p><strong>BE: But he was still awesome. And I don’t know if you watch the show, but at the end of a guest’s segment, Craig gives them the choice of winning a big cash prize, doing an awkward pause, or playing the mouth organ. Well, Wilford goes for the mouth organ, then proceeds to go on a mad harmonica solo, at which point Craig awards him the Gold Harmonica.  </strong></p>
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<p><strong>SD</strong>: Oh, I so have to watch this. [Laughs.] Wilford is… It’s not surprising to me that Wilford gave very short sentences. He doesn’t elaborate a lot. He’s a man of few words. But when he does speak, it’s definitive and it’s about something. You know, he’s old school. Seriously old school. And he <em>is</em> awesome.</p>
<p><strong>BE: I think the perfect encapsulation of the interview came when Craig was asking Wilford about his ranch, and Craig says, “Oh, what kind of horse do you have?” “Brown.” And that was it. End of discussion. </strong></p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: [Laughs.] Yep. You know, he gave <em>me</em> a brown horse.</p>
<p><strong>KI</strong>: He did?</p>
<p><strong>SD</strong>: Yeah. Brownie. One of my first horses. I’ve had two men give me horses. Wilford was one, and the other was R.D. Hubbard, who used to own Hollywood Park (Racetrack). He gave me a black stallion. Because “The Black Stallion” was one of my favorite movies, and I was, like, “I want a black stallion so bad!” So he gave me a black stallion.</p>
<p><strong>BE: Lastly, as far as “90210” goes, did you enjoy the episodes that you did, and will we ever see you on the show again?</strong></p>
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<p><strong>SD</strong>: I…thoroughly enjoyed coming back and doing it. It was…it’s definitely a different show now, I think, that when I was on it and when Jennie (Garth) was on it. It was different producers at the time. You know, for me it was great because it was… I think the best part was sort of the fans, and doing something to say “thank you” for fans being so incredibly loyal. And my fans are the best. They’re very loyal. Also, it was very interesting to come back as adults and work again with Jennie, especially since…well, you know, it’s no secret that we weren’t exactly friends on the original “90210.” But we’re friends now, and to sort of look at each other and for me to go, “Oh, man, I’m so stupid,” and for her to go, “I can’t believe I said something so mean about you,” we were looking at each other and going, “You know, I actually <em>like</em> you. You’re actually <em>cool</em>.” [Laughs.] I think it’s just such a commentary on, when you’re 18 and thrown into that kind of situation versus when you’re older and more mature, what happens. You always give people a second chance.</p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>High school: it&#8217;s a rite of passage we all must endure. Some of us weep when it&#8217;s over, others can&#8217;t wait to say goodbye forever, but for better or worse, it&#8217;s an experience that we&#8217;ll remember for the rest of our lives. The same goes for some of the many TV series that have been <em>set</em> in high school. Here at Bullz-Eye, we&#8217;ve polled our writers for their favorite shows within the genre, and the end result is, not unlike high school itself, a mixture of both comedy and drama. </p>
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<p><strong>12. Life As We Know It</strong> (ABC, 2004 &#8211; 2005): Lasting only 11 episodes before ABC unceremoniously yanked it from the air, “Life As We Know It” premiered during perhaps the most cancel-happy era in television. Developed by two of the producers of “Freaks and Geeks” (maybe the writing was already on the wall), the series may have ultimately been undone by poor ratings, but the Parents Television Council’s campaign against the show’s sexual themes certainly didn’t help. Then again, when you green light a series based on a controversial young-adult novel called “Doing It” that follows the exploits of a trio of best friends (Sean Faris, Jon Foster and Chris Lowell) navigating the highs and lows of adolescence, you can hardly pretend to be surprised when its characters discuss sex on a fairly regular basis. </p>
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<p>Featuring a great cast of young up-and-comers that also included Missy Peregrym and Kelly Osbourne (yes, <em>that</em> Kelly Osbourne, who’s never been cuter than she was here), “Life As We Know It” certainly wasn’t perfect by any means, but it easily outshined similar shows like “Dawson’s Creek” and “The O.C.,” particularly in its handling of its adult characters. The series wasn’t without the usual high school clichés, but the writers never shied away from edgier material, either – like a student having a secret affair with his teacher or a star jock dealing with performance issues – resulting in a smart, sweet and incredibly honest look at how sex changes everything. – <strong>Jason Zingale</strong></p>
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<p><strong>11. Welcome Back, Kotter</strong> (ABC, 1975 &#8211; 1979): Despite suffering through remedial classes and acting far more rebellious than was deemed socially acceptable, Gabe Kotter (played by the suspiciously similarly-named Gabe Kaplan) still somehow managed to graduate from James Buchanan High School, but who would have thought that the dreams that were his ticket out would lead him back there? (John Sebastian did, of course, but that&#8217;s not really relevant to this discussion.) With his teacher certification tucked into his back pocket, Kotter returns to his alma mater and takes on the challenge of trying to educate the new generation of remedial students. Oh, sure, their names have all changed since he hung around &#8211; now they&#8217;re called Vinnie Barbarino (<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/entertainers/john_travolta.htm" target="_blank">John Travolta</a>), Arnold Horshack (Ron Palillo), Freddie &#8220;Boom-Boom&#8221; Washington (Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs), and Juan Epstein (Robert Hegyes) &#8211; but they&#8217;re still &#8220;sweathogs&#8221; all the way. </p>
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<p>Most would likely agree that &#8220;Welcome Back, Kotter&#8221; was at its best when it was still the original four Sweathogs, i.e. before Travolta slipped away from television, put on a white suit, and found big-screen success on the dance floor, but even at its funniest, few would probably describe it as the most realistic look into high school life.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t think anyone was trying to replicate the high school experience so much as they were trying to service those particular characters and write stories about them,&#8221; said <a href="http://www.newsfromme.com" target="_blank">Mark Evanier</a>, who served as a story editor for the show.  &#8220;If you could get a good joke out of it, great&#8230;though there were times I think we settled for a decent catch-phrase.&#8221;</p>
<p>While the words &#8220;up your nose with a rubber hose&#8221; lend credence to Evanier&#8217;s theory, the Marx-Brothers-inspired chemistry between the Sweathogs helps their slapstick shenanigans hold up nonetheless. And, besides, who needs realism when you&#8217;ve got Gabe Kaplan doing Groucho? &#8211; <strong>Will Harris</strong></p>
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<p><strong>10. Glee</strong> (Fox, 2009 &#8211; present): Is it telling that one of the most popular current shows on TV came it at only the #10 spot? If nothing else, maybe it proves we here at Bullz-Eye aren’t prone to fads. Except that maybe we are, as “<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television_reviews/2009/glee_1.htm" target="_blank">Glee</a>” has made it onto our <a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television/power_rankings/2010/fall.htm" target="_blank">TV Power Rankings</a> lists time and again since its debut. But this list isn’t about what entertains us in the broader sense; it’s about great high school shows. As entertaining as “Glee” can be, it has almost nothing real to say about the high school experience, and in fact most of the high school kids I know find it to be pretty nonsensical.  </p>
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<p>The one area that it seems to excel in as far as capturing the high school experience is in its ability to play romantic musical chairs with its cast of teenage characters. These kids are fickle, and the only guarantee that seems to come with a relationship on “<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television_reviews/2010/glee_2-1.htm" target="_blank">Glee</a>” is that sooner or later it’s going to end.  Some props should probably also be given for their attempt to zero in on the bullying issue that so seems to afflict kids today, but “Glee” chose to unfortunately treat the topic with kid gloves rather than say something truly meaningful. None of this is to say that “Glee” isn’t one hell of an entertaining series, because it is, but anyone looking for something a little deeper would do best to dust off their old DVD of “The Breakfast Club.” &#8211; <strong>Ross Ruediger</strong></p>
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<p><strong>9. Square Pegs</strong> (CBS, 1982 &#8211; 1983): We hate to recycle the opening line of <a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television_reviews/1982/square_pegs.htm" target="_blank">our DVD review</a> for this classic &#8217;80s sitcom, but since the statement still holds true, we&#8217;re going to do it, anyway: &#8220;Although there’s absolutely nothing inaccurate about labeling &#8216;Square Pegs&#8217; as an artifact of its time, it’s far too lazy a phrase to use as the sole descriptor of a series that was not only one of the funniest sitcoms of the ‘80s, but the most accurate representation of ostracized high school kids this side of &#8216;Freaks and Geeks.&#8217;” Hyperbole, ahoy&#8230;? Not if you grew up <em>in</em> the &#8217;80s, my friend.</p>
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<p>Kids today may only see the novelty value in &#8220;Square Pegs&#8221; (&#8220;Hey, look, <a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/celebritybabes/sarah_jessica_parker.htm" target="_blank">Sarah Jessica Parker</a> before &#8216;Sex and the City&#8217;!&#8221;), but back when dweebs and spazzes were still busy battling preppies and valley girls, it was &#8211; you&#8217;ll pardon the expression &#8211; <em>totally awesome</em> to see new wave kids represented in a halfway-accurate fashion in prime time. Admittedly, characters like Johnny Slash (Merritt Butrick), Jennifer DeNuccio (Tracy Nelson), and Muffy Tepperman (Jami Gertz) were painted with some pretty broad strokes, but those of us who suffered through the lower circles of the hell that is high school saw kindred spirits in Patty Greene (the aforementioned Ms. Parker), Lauren Hutchinson (Amy Linker), or, in my case, Marshall Blechtman (John Femia). That I was forever mystified while Marshall wasn&#8217;t considered the most hilarious kid at Weemawee High School says, I fear, rather a lot about my social standing. &#8211; <strong>Will Harris</strong></p>
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<p><strong>8. Skins</strong> (2007 &#8211; present): Even though the preceding parenthetical run dates should already make it evident, let&#8217;s go ahead and clarify this point right up front: we&#8217;re talking about the UK version of &#8220;Skins,&#8221; not MTV&#8217;s attempt at Americanization. Not that we blame the network formerly known for providing Music Television for trying to put their own stamp on the property, but if all they were going to do was water it down for Stateside sensibilities, then they really needn&#8217;t have bothered. There&#8217;s a reason why creators Bryan Elsley and Jamie Brittain have been recognized by the British Academy of Film and Television Arts and Rose d&#8217;Or festival, precious little of which can be seen on &#8220;our&#8221; version.</p>
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<p>&#8220;If parents were freaking out over the incredibly unrealistic scenarios presented in &#8216;Gossip Girl,&#8217;” we mused in our review of &#8220;<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television_reviews/2007/skins_1.htm" target="_blank">Skins: Volume One</a>,&#8221; &#8220;then one can only imagine the series of heart attacks and strokes that could occur from viewing the disconcertingly real circumstances within this show.&#8221; That&#8217;s not to say that the level of teenage sex, drugs, and general mischief seen on &#8220;Skins&#8221; are the norm, but what will make them so disconcerting to moms and dads is that they&#8217;re presented in a manner which, unlike in your typical CW series, will make you fear that <em>your child could be doing the same thing at the very moment!</em> Another impressive element of &#8220;Skins&#8221; is the creators&#8217; decision to phase out characters after a season or two, which keeps the show fresh. Shame about the MTV version, but don&#8217;t let that stop you from embracing the brilliance of the original. </p>
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<p><strong>7. The White Shadow</strong> (CBS, 1978 &#8211; 1981): Ken Howard starred as Ken Reeves, a former NBA player whose career is cut short by injury. An old friend reaches out to him and Reeves gives up the pros, moves to L.A. and becomes the unlikely coach of an inner city basketball team. The set up is very high concept, but the execution of &#8220;The White Shadow&#8221; was much more down to earth. Created by Bruce Paltrow, the series explored the lives of the young men, an eclectic cast of blacks and whites, as much as it dealt with Reeves adapting to his new lifestyle. With Reeves taking on the role of father figure, he did his best to help each kid reach his potential. </p>
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<p>An early example of a dramedy, the series introduced us to memorable characters like Morris Thorpe, Go-Go Gomez, Reese, Salami (and his car, the Motel California) and of course, Coolidge. Each kid had spark and charm and made coming back each week a joy, even though the roads they travelled were often full of roadblocks like racism, drugs and violence. That rare show aimed at men of all ages that didn&#8217;t involve cops or lawyers, &#8220;The White Shadow&#8221; holds up today because it treated the high school kids like real people and not just caricatures drawn up in an executives office. &#8211; <strong>Scott Malchus</strong></p>
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<p><strong>6. Parker Lewis Can&#8217;t Lose</strong> (Fox, 1990 &#8211; 1993): What &#8220;<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television_reviews/2006/30_rock_1.htm" target="_blank">30 Rock</a>&#8221; is to actual television production, and what &#8220;<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television_reviews/2003/arrested_development_1.htm" target="_blank">Arrested Development</a>&#8221; was to the real real estate business, &#8220;<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television_reviews/1990/parker_lewis_cant_lose_1.htm" target="_blank">Parker Lewis Can&#8217;t Lose</a>&#8221; was to high school life. Wrongly tagged as a knock-off of &#8220;<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/mguide/reviews_1986/ferris_buellers_day_off.htm" target="_blank">Ferris Bueller&#8217;s Day Off</a>&#8221; but with an admitted debt to Phil Joanou&#8217;s little seen &#8220;Three O&#8217;Clock High,&#8221; this early 1990s sitcom was years ahead of its time in breaking the static mold of the single-camera sitcom and foreshadowing the camera tricks of more recent live-action cartoons like &#8220;Malcolm in the Middle&#8221; and &#8220;<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television_reviews/2005/my_name_is_earl_1.htm" target="_blank">My Name is Earl</a>.&#8221; Created by Clyde Phillips and Lon Diamond, the comedy portrayed high school not as the setting for emotional ordeals, but a place where, if valuable life-lessons were to be learned, they were going to be learned in the context of an absurdist comic wonderland of spoofery that recalled both &#8220;Rock and Roll High School&#8221; and &#8220;Airplane!&#8221; </p>
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<p>Week after week, <a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television/interviews/2009/corin_nemec.htm" target="_blank">Corin Nemec</a>&#8216;s preternaturally resourceful and resilient title character, soulful pompadoured rebel Mikey Randall (Billy Jayne), and insanely accomplished neurotic super-nerd and high-tech jacket wearer Jerry Steiner (Troy Slaten) thwarted the fun-killing evil plans of Principal Grace Musso (Melanie Chartoff) and Parker&#8217;s diabolical kid sister, Shelly (Maia Brewton), with cartoonish aplomb on a show that was mostly about silly spoofs, Bugs Bunny-eseque slapstick, and wish fulfillment. Dealing with the realities of adolescence was fine for other shows, but when it came to good-natured pokes at teen drama cliches, current events, and television itself, &#8220;Parker Lewis Can&#8217;t Lose&#8221; was a consistent winner. &#8211; <strong>Bob Westal</strong></p>
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<p><strong>5. Buffy the Vampire Slayer</strong> (The WB, 1997 &#8211; 2001 / UPN, 2001 &#8211; 2003): <a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/mguide/interviews/2005/joss_whedon.htm" target="_blank">Joss Whedon</a>&#8216;s most popular and analyzed creation is never oversubtle in the metaphor department. Was your high school a living hell? Sunnydale High sits over a &#8220;hellmouth&#8221; which attracts all forms of evil. Is teen sex fraught with peril in your experience? When Buffy Summers (<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/celebritybabes/sarah_michelle_gellar.htm" target="_blank">Sarah Michelle Gellar</a>), finally sleeps with her heroic vampire boyfriend, Angel (<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television/interviews/2006/david_boreanaz.htm" target="_blank">David Boreanaz</a>), he literally loses his soul and commences eating her friends. A combination of epic fantasy a la Marvel Comics, action, not-too-scary monster horror, and soap opera with generous portions of the kind of fast-paced verbal comedy that supposedly died in 1964, &#8220;Buffy&#8221; became a television classic because it was as honest as it was fun. </p>
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<p>Many complained when Whedon killed off sympathetic and popular characters, but a truly excellent show based on the very idea of death had to occasionally deal with death.  For seven frequently brilliant, hugely inventive seasons starting in 1997, &#8220;Buffy&#8221; was equally honest, and often hilariously satiric, on topics ranging from bad relationships, to bigotry, conformism, religion, and the fact that life cam be so complicated that even the smartest among us have no clue how to deal with it. High school might be a kind of hell for some, but when Buffy and her friends graduated, the struggles only became more complex. The good news was that, with loyal friends and family members, life could be survived and enjoyed, as well as suffered. If several of those friends have super powers, even better.</p>
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<p><strong>4. Friday Night Lights</strong> (NBC, 2006 &#8211; 2011): Pure. That&#8217;s the only way to describe this honest, sincere portrayal of life in a small Texas city, where the ebb and flow of life revolved around the success of the high school football teams.  Through five seasons, we saw a parade of characters that rang true to the real high school experience. Unfortunately, the show only attracted a loyal, cult like audience. People didn&#8217;t want realism; they wanted to escape and forget about their problems. Yet, through the wonderfully drawn characters, especially the core of the series, football coach, Eric Taylor (Kyle Chandler), and his wife, high school counselor, Tami (Connie Britton), &#8220;<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television_reviews/2006/friday_night_lights_1.htm" target="_blank">Friday Night Lights</a>&#8221; offered something sorely lacking in American television: hope. </p>
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<p>We saw teenagers face devastating injuries, get abandoned by their parents, deal with drug issues, unwanted pregnancies and the threat of jail and death. Yet, through the example set by the Taylors, at the end of every day there was an optimism that permeated from the dusty streets of Dillon. For its depiction of small town America and its truthfulness in portraying the high school experience, &#8220;Friday Night Lights&#8221; will go down as one of the premiere television dramas of the past decade, if not in the history of television. Like I said, pure. &#8211; <strong>Scott Malchus</strong></p>
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<p><strong>3. Veronica Mars</strong> (UPN, 2004 &#8211; 2006 / The CW, 2006 &#8211; 2007): Juggling school work, extra-curricular activities, and dealing with the negative effects that doing the right thing can have on your social status are not new grounds for a show set in high school. Ah, but what if the high school student was also a private investigator, and not just a private investigator but a <em>smoking hot</em> private investigator? Then they would be Veronica Mars, who’s thrown to the dogs by her rich friends (her sheriff father suspected one of their fathers of murder) and forced to recruit a new band of Scoobies to help her solve crime and survive the hallways of Neptune High. </p>
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<p><a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/celebritybabes/kristen_bell.htm" target="_blank">Kristen Bell</a> has to know that this was a once-in-a-lifetime part for her – hell, she pretty much acknowledges and makes fun of that in “<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/mguide/reviews_2008/forgetting_sarah_marshall.htm" target="_blank">Forgetting Sarah Marshall</a>” – and she made the most of it, making the guarded but vulnerable Veronica one of the most desirable women on television, even though her personal life was a shambles. She didn’t solve cupcake cases involving missing puppies, either. Veronica solved murders (including that of her best friend, which sent her boyfriend’s father to jail), caught rapists (including her own), and hung out with Latino bikers. To use characters from fellow high school show “Freaks and Geeks,” Veronica Mars is like Lindsay Weir and Kim Kelly rolled into one, street smart and tough but kind-hearted, and her supporting cast, particularly Jason Dohring and <a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television/interviews/2008/enrico_colantoni.htm" target="_blank">Enrico Colantoni</a> as Veronica’s boyfriend and father, respectively, was exceptional. One of the rare shows where the high school drama has its rightful place in the grand scheme of things: at the bottom. &#8211; <strong>David Medsker</strong></p>
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<p><strong>2. My So-Called Life</strong> (ABC, 1994 &#8211; 1995): It stands to reason that “<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television_reviews/2007/my_so_called_life.htm" target="_blank">My So-Called Life</a>” and &#8211; <em>spoiler alert!</em> &#8211; “Freaks and Geeks” should take the top two spots on our list. They are, after all, not only great shows about high school, but truthful shows about life, full of poignancy, heartbreak and humor. This series is more feminine in its approach, whereas “Freaks and Geeks” has more of a masculine take. <a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/celebritybabes/claire_danes.htm" target="_blank">Claire Danes</a> was all but a nobody when this series hit the airwaves, but that didn’t stop her from deftly imbuing Angela Chase with all the angst, hope and desire that goes along with being a teenager.</p>
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<p>One of the most famous episodes of the series revolved around Angela being tormented by a zit, and that, more than anything else, is what being a teenager is really all about. It’s that time in your life when the smallest things carry the biggest weight. Teens change, but certain aspects of that period of years remain constant no matter what the decade. “My So-Called Life” life is just as tight and smart today as it was when ABC unveiled it 17 years ago. Many have bemoaned its early cancellation (it only lasted 19 episodes) and rightly so, as there were obviously many, many more stories to tell. But the positive side is that it got created at all, and you’ve still not seen it, by all means pick up the complete-series set from Shout! Factory. &#8211; <strong>Ross Ruediger</strong></p>
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<p><strong>1. Freaks and Geeks</strong> (NBC, 1999 &#8211; 2000): <a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/entertainment/interviews/judd_apatow.htm" target="_blank">Judd Apatow</a> may have turned into a household name with the college crowd as a result of his film work, but he earned a special place in the hearts of TV critics and discerning viewers when he served as the executive producer of the single season wonder known as &#8220;Freaks and Geeks,&#8221; created by Paul Feig. The latter gentleman doesn&#8217;t get nearly enough credit for what he brought to the table for the series, but anyone who&#8217;s taken the time to read both volumes of his memoirs &#8211; <em>Kick Me: Adventures in Adolescence</em> and <em>Superstud: Or How I Became A 24-Year-Old Virgin</em> &#8211; knows of Feig&#8217;s firsthand familiarity with freakdom. </p>
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<p>It only takes a single glance at the above photo to see that the show had a cast to die for: the freaks were James Franco, Jason Segel, Seth Rogen, and Busy Philipps, who&#8217;s now on &#8220;Cougar Town,&#8221; the geeks were Samm Levine (&#8220;Inglorious Basterds&#8221;) and Martin Starr  (&#8220;Party Down&#8221;), and somewhere in between were Lindsay Weir (Linda Cardellini, late of &#8220;ER&#8221;) and her little brother, Sam (John Francis Daley, currently of &#8220;Bones&#8221;). It&#8217;s no surprise that this crew could make with the funny whenever it was required of them, but much of the humor was the sort that made you laugh both because it was funny and because you&#8217;d lived through something similar yourself, a feeling aided in no small way by having the show set in the early 1980s. Unfortunately, between the retro setting and the odd title, &#8220;Freaks and Geeks&#8221; failed to pull a large audience, a fact which seems inconceivable when you consider how many people have subsequently fallen in love with it on DVD, thanks to Shout Factory. Indeed, after watching the complete-series set, one is hard pressed to comprehend how viewers didn&#8217;t riot in the streets when the series got its walking papers. &#8220;Freaks and Geeks&#8221; isn&#8217;t just a great high school show. It&#8217;s one of the best TV series of all time. &#8211; <strong>Will Harris</strong></p>
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<p><em><strong>Extra Credit</strong>: What, like you really thought we&#8217;d be able to narrow it down to just 12 series? Get real. Here are some of our other favorites. We still left some out, of course, but you&#8217;ve got to stop somewhere, haven&#8217;t you? (Besides, this gives you plenty of room to complain in the comments section about what we&#8217;ve forgotten.)</em></p>
<p><strong>21 Jump Street</strong> (Fox, 1987 &#8211; 1991): God only knows what the hell we should expect from the forthcoming film adaptation of this early offering from the Fox network, but it&#8217;s a fair bet that Jonah Hill won&#8217;t walk out with the same sex-symbol status that Johnny Depp earned while playing Officer Tom Hanson. The concept of &#8220;21 Jump Street&#8221; involved a quartet of fresh-faced cops &#8211; played by Depp, Holly Robinson, Peter Deluise, and Dustin Ngyuen, with Richard Grieco joining the cast in &#8217;88 and then spinning off into his own short-lived series, &#8220;Booker&#8221; &#8211; working undercover as high school students, regularly reporting back to their supervisor, Captain Fuller (Steven Williams). Lots of hot teen topics were tackled, most of which were resolved within an hour, just like in real life. &#8211; <strong>Will Harris</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Beverly Hills, 90210 </strong>(Fox, 1990 &#8211; 2000): Although the current incarnation of this classic series (The CW&#8217;s &#8220;90210&#8243;) may have finally found its own identity now that it&#8217;s in its third season, trying to dismiss the classic classroom drama of Brandon, Brenda, Dylan, and Kelly is basically asking to get your ass kicked. (Those original-series fans are a tenacious bunch.) Few will deny that the show went on a couple of seasons longer than it probably should have, and the jokes about twentysomethings trying to get away with playing high schoolers were absolutely on the mark, but neither of those observations change the fact that &#8220;Beverly Hills 90210&#8243; defined the nighttime teen soap genre. <strong>Will Harris</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Clone High</strong> (MTV, 2002 &#8211; 2003): Was this the greatest concept for a high school show <em>ever</em>&#8230;? You be the judge: it&#8217;s a high school entirely populated by clones of famous historical figures, created as an experiment by the U.S. military in order to harness their mental and physical abilities for the good of the nation. Abe Lincoln, JFK, Genghis Khan, Cleopatra, George Washington Carver, Helen of Troy&#8230;even Mahatma Gandhi. </p>
<p>&#8220;I loved that show, man,&#8221; <a href="http://www.premiumhollywood.com/2009/05/06/a-chat-with-bill-lawrence-the-scrubs-exit-interview/" target="_blank">Bill Lawrence, the co-creator of the series</a>, told Premium Hollywood in 2009. &#8220;Once you’ve been doing this long enough, you have a couple of things in your past, you have failures that you feel failed rightfully so, and you have some failures that you’re, like, &#8216;That was wrong.&#8217; TV has so many elements out of your control, be it marketing, timeslots, promotion, luck of the draw…or the Indian government, like &#8220;Clone High.&#8217;”</p>
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<p>Yeah, that whole thing about including Gandhi as one of the students? Not such a hit in India. Nearly 150 Indian MPs and political activists pledged to fast in protest of the series&#8230;or, as E! Online put it, &#8220;(MTV) came under fire from Indian officials offended by &#8216;Clone High&#8221;s &#8216;toon version of Gandhi, a high schooler purportedly cloned from the assassinated Mohandas Gandhi, who goes by the nicknames G-Man, and DNA Dan, (and) has an affinity for dangly earrings, rap music, junk food and &#8216;being the ultimate party animal.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>I am shocked&#8230;<em>shocked!</em>&#8230;that Indians would be unamused by such a depiction of the father of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyagraha" target="_blank">satyagraha</a>. Me, though, I thought the show was <em>hilarious</em>. &#8211; <strong>Will Harris</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Daria</strong> (MTV, 1997 &#8211; 2001): It’s easy to forget that “<a href="http://www.bullz-eye.com/television_reviews/1997/daria.htm" target="_blank">Daria</a>,” the whip-smart animated series about a wise-beyond-her-years high school misanthrope who never met a line she couldn’t underdeliver, was a spin-off of the pinnacle of dumbness, “Beavis &#038; Butt-Head.” Fortunately, the similarities end there. Daria is a rare beast of teenager, one who clearly isn’t like the other kids, but rather than having a complex or an attitude about it, she instead observes her peers – and pretty much everyone else – with detached amusement, never getting involved and never getting hurt. </p>
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<p>Where she inherited this personality trait is anyone’s guess, as everyone in her family is a high-strung head case, but it leads to some incredible verbal volleying with her vain but secretly smart sister Quinn, who’s one of the greatest animated characters in TV history. Even better is Trent, the slacker older brother of Daria’s best friend Jane and, temperament-wise, a perfect match for Daria. In all other aspects of life, though, they couldn’t be less alike (he’s seven years older and still lives at home). Ultimately, the true genius of “Daria” is how they provided so many shallow characters with so much depth; frankly, it’s amazing that MTV allowed something so unassumingly witty to run as long as they did. &#8211; <strong>David Medsker</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Degrassi: The Next Generation</strong> (CTV, 2001 &#8211; 2009 / MuchMusic, 2010 &#8211; present): No list of high school series would be complete without a mention of this Canadian phenomenon that has lasted a staggering ten seasons on the air. Seen in the U.S. on TeenNick, “Degrassi: The Next Generation” has had a multitude of cast members (as students have grown and moved away) and introduced the world to the talents of Shenae Grimes (“Beverly Hills: 90210), Nina Dobrev (“The Vampire Diaries) and recording artist, Drake (who acted under his birth name, Aubrey Graham). </p>
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<p>While characters have come and gone, one thing that has not changed is “Degrassi’s” dedication to tackling sensitive issues such as drugs, rape, abortion and mental illness in a realistic and thoughtful manner. Some of the plotlines may border on the soapy (this is a teen series after all), but the producers have always written with a purity that is lacking in pretty much every crass sitcom or adventure show marketed to teenagers. Obviously, the Bullz-Eye readership is not the intended audience of “Degrassi: The Next Generation,” (unless you’re a teenage boy who got sidetracked from the models pages) but if you are a fan of YA literature or high school shows in general, this Canadian import is worth checking out. &#8211; <strong>Scott Malchus</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Everwood</strong> (The WB, 2002 &#8211; 2006): New York City piano protégé, Ephram Brown (Gregory Smith) is uprooted by his grieving father and moved with his younger sister to a small Colorado town. Full of himself and angry over the death of his mother, Ephram has no desire to integrate into the rural community of Everwood. But he has no choice, and viewers were thankful that his father, Dr. Andy Brown, refused to return the family back to New York. With a stellar cast, led by Treat Williams as Andy, “Everwood” was the rare family show being broadcast on any major network during the early 2000’s. </p>
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<p>Although Williams was billed as the star, it wasn’t Andy’s story that was so compelling. It was Ephram’s and his coming of age. “Everwood” had many of the hallmarks of a teen series &#8211; the outcast trying to fit in, the girl of his dreams (Emily VanCamp) that he would eventually win, the high school bully (Chris Pratt) who would become his best friend &#8211; but it succeeded because of the sensitivity it used in approaching these universal themes, and by its execution. Often praised as one of the best written and well acted shows of its time, the series only lasted four seasons, a victim of the WB/UPN merger. However, the first three seasons of “Everwood” are available on DVD and well worth your time. &#8211; <strong>Scott Malchus</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Fame</strong> (NBC, 1982 &#8211; 1983 / Syndication, 1983 &#8211; 1987): It&#8217;s appropriate, I suppose, that the only part about &#8220;Fame&#8221; that&#8217;s lived forever in my memory is its name&#8230;and I probably wouldn&#8217;t even remember that if Irene Cara&#8217;s theme song wasn&#8217;t so damned catchy. Still, the cinematic story of the New York City High School for the Performing Arts (which, though fictional, is directly inspired by the Fiorello H. LaGuardia High School of Music &#038; Art and Performing Arts, also in New York) spawned a series that survived network cancellation to run for an additional four seasons in syndication, which is nothing to sneeze at. I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s a good thing that it inspired a generation of insufficiently-talented kids to say, &#8220;I am <em>totally</em> talented enough to go to one of those schools,&#8221; but I guess it&#8217;s no worse than the similar delusions inspired by &#8220;American Idol.&#8221; &#8211; <strong>Will Harris</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Head of the Class</strong> (ABC, 1986 &#8211; 1991): Who knew that Johnny Fever’s doctorate was an EdD? (We’d always presumed it was something to do with pharmaceuticals.) </p>
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<p>After seeing the three dispensable seasons of “WKRP in Cincinnati” episodes rerun over and over and over again, it was somewhat jarring to see a ‘stache-less Howard Hesseman not only standing in front of a classroom, wearing a coat and/or tie (but rarely both) and shaping young minds, but – gasp! – wearing a suit. Charlie Moore (Hesseman) came into a Manhattan high school as a substitute history teacher, but he soon finds himself as the full-time instructor to the school’s academically-gifted students, including nerdy Arvid (Dan Frischman), chubby Dennis (Dan Schneider), super-spoiled Darlene (Robin Givens), and Janice (Tannis Vallely), otherwise known as the little girl with pigtails and glasses. By the time the series wrapped, however, Hesseman was long gone, having been replaced by Billy Connolly, a very funny man who, alas, was never really in a position to play to his comedic strengths.</p>
<p>“Head of the Class” wasn’t what you’d call edgy, but it’s worthy of mention because of its noble efforts to take away some of the stigma of being a smart kid. Unfortunately, it’s also pretty dated, which is why you don’t see it in syndication very much anymore. (Those Reagan jokes just don’t play the way they used to.) – <strong>Will Harris</strong> </p>
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<p><strong>James at 15</strong> / <strong>James at 16</strong> (NBC, 1977 &#8211; 1978): It&#8217;s almost quaint to think that this series, which changed its title with the age of its lead character, erupted in controversy over the network&#8217;s decision to make James &#8211; played by Lance Kerwin &#8211; feel bad about losing his virginity. Indeed, the show&#8217;s creator, Dan Wakefield, quit the show as a result.</p>
<p>According to <em><a href="http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20070099,00.html" target="_blank">People</a></em> at the time&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Wakefield submitted a script calling for James to yield his virtue to a Swedish exchange student on his 16th birthday. (The title will simultaneously age to James at 16.) But squeamish NBC censors balked at Wakefield&#8217;s treatment of sex and contraception and had the show rewritten to &#8220;punish&#8221; the young lovers with guilt. &#8220;The network didn&#8217;t mind that James was going to have sex,&#8221; claims Wakefield, who is working in television for the first time, &#8220;but they said even a vague mention of birth control [James' euphemism: "Are you responsible?"] made the episode too controversial. I felt it would have been totally irresponsible not to include that reference.&#8221; NBC answers that the script&#8217;s problem was not birth control but the &#8220;dangerous ground&#8221; of &#8220;promiscuity.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>History, thankfully, has allowed Wakefield to have the last laugh: when people look back at this storyline now, the only thing they&#8217;re thinking is, &#8220;Man, I wish I&#8217;d lost <em>my</em> virginity to a Swedish exchange student. That&#8217;d only be, like, the best first-time story <em>ever</em>!&#8221; </p>
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<p><strong>Room 222</strong> (ABC, 1969 &#8211; 1974): You didn&#8217;t need to be a media theorist to figure out that this witty, well-acted comedy-drama, created by a young James L. Brooks, operated on a formula.</p>
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<p>It would start with comedic repartee between wry, befuddled principal Seymour Kaufman (Michael Constantine) &#8212; yes, there probably is a &#8220;Simpsons&#8221; connection there &#8212; adorably zany student teacher Alice Johnson (Karen Valentine), smart school-counselor Liz McIntyre (Denise Nicolas), and history teacher Pete Dixon (Lloyd Haynes). Since Mr. Dixon and Miss McIntyre were both thirtyish and African-American, it followed that they were dating.</p>
<p>After the first commercial break, a troubled student would emerge, often with a problem ripped from the headlines of the day. After the second break, the troubled student would have a heart-to-heart chat with the extremely wise, compassionate and Poitier-esque Mr. Haynes. By the epilogue, the student would be on the road to a productive adult life.</p>
<p>To be fair, the formula did get broken at times, and the show was a trailblazer in its relatively realistic depiction of the kinds of multi-ethnic schools that were then emerging in racial-strife-torn Los Angeles. It also remains a frightening depiction of early 1970s male hairstyles. Wacky comedy relief student Bernie (David Jolliffe) sported television&#8217;s most massive Jewfro, which easily dwarfed the staid Afros of black characters like his buddy, Jason (Heshimu). Bernie&#8217;s hair didn&#8217;t win any awards, but, by God, it deserved its own show. &#8211; <strong>Bob Westal</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Saved by the Bell</strong> (NBC, 1989 &#8211; 1993): All things being equal, if we&#8217;re going to watch Elizabeth Berkeley in something, we&#8217;d just as soon make it &#8220;Showgirls&#8221; (the acting&#8217;s just as bad, but as least we get nudity), but we can&#8217;t deny the staying power of this kitschy Saturday morning sitcom. That doesn&#8217;t mean we have to write much about it, though. &#8211; <strong>Will Harris</strong></p>
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<p><strong>The Wonder Years</strong> (ABC, 1988 &#8211; 1993): Given that every single member of the Bullz-Eye staff swears by this coming-of-age comedy&#8230;or dramedy, really, once you consider how many times it made us tear up over the years&#8230;it&#8217;s a little surprising that Kevin Arnold and company didn&#8217;t actually rank in the list proper. Or is it?</p>
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<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, but when I think of &#8220;The Wonder Years,&#8221; I think most specifically of the early episodes, when Kevin and Winnie weren&#8217;t even in their teens yet (Fred Savage was 12 when the show started). Plus, so many of the key storylines involved the Arnold family that, even with all of those appearances by Robert Picardo as Coach Cutlip and that gut-wrenching episode when Kevin&#8217;s algebra teacher dies unexpectedly from a heart attack, I just don&#8217;t think of &#8220;The Wonder Years&#8221; first and foremost as a high school show&#8230;not that that makes it any less awesome. &#8211; <strong>Will Harris</strong> </p>
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